[nartho]

The issue is not so much an artist that will use it as a tool, even though there is much to say about it, it's the hundred of thousands of people with no interest in music whatsoever, that will flood the platforms in order to make a quick buck.

[Dormeno]

> it's the hundred of thousands of people with no interest in music whatsoever, that will flood the platforms in order to make a quick buck.

Whenever I look at popular artists on streaming platforms, I see 'remixes' where people just slowed down the particular original song and added reverb or some other silly effect to it. I don't think AI existing or not will change the behaviour of people trying to make a quick buck. If they aren't using AI, they'll use a different tool as they did before.

[pousada]

People who won’t invest anything and just want to make a quick buck won’t be successful with AI generated content/music.

You still need to invest significant time and effort to make it work.

[belthesar]

Musicians who are being threatened by AI impersonating them, flooding the market with music like theirs, and otherwise actually harmed by this would disagree with you. Benn Jordan speaks at length about it in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXfcIb3OKo

[kazinator]

They will be successful in drowning out the artists. Not individually so, but collectively.

[camillomiller]

LOL you clearly haven’t checked the flows of million-plus-views ambient music bullshit videos on YouTube

[pousada]

I never said it’s impossible to be successful with slop, i said it still needs work and time investment to be successful

[camillomiller]

But that’s exactly my point. The time and effort invested in making ambient music for those channels is utterly negligible

[Gigachad]

They are though by sheer volume. Finding anything half good will be a needle in a planet sized haystack of slop.

[pousada]

This has already been the case way before AI was a thing.

As a new artist you have to compete against 60+ years of music history - much of it really good music too.

[JohnFen]

> As a new artist you have to compete against 60+ years of music history

Kinda, sorta. Good music is reflective of the society and era it was produced in and that matters. I regularly listen to music, from all over the world, that was composed (and some, recorded) 100+ years ago, music that was recorded 50+ years ago, and music that was recorded last month. None of them are a substitute for the other because each has a unique voice expressing things that were unique about the time and place they were made in.

So, in a sense, they aren't in competition with each other. But also, there are only so many hours in a day and there isn't enough time in your life to listen to all the worthy music that humans have made. Hard choices are necessary. In that sense, they are in competition with each other.

[Gigachad]

As a listener this is a good thing. Too much good music.

Now it’s that the listener has to compete with 60x absolute slop to find something good.

[pousada]

I personally don’t have that problem. I can find new good music easily on soundcloud/bandcamp/youtube - much more than I have time to consume. Maybe this 60x absolute slop thing is a problem if you use services like Spotify - which arguably are a much bigger plight upon artists than AI generated slop

[default-kramer]

You're right, but for EDM this was pretty much already the case. The scene survives in large part thanks to DJs who wade through countless mediocre tracks looking for the few hidden gems to deploy at the right moment. I think AI means that DJs will become much more important in all genres.

[lukevp]

How many engineers are using ai-generated software libraries at this point? This could be all over github, but the software mostly sucks (because the AI doesn’t do architecture and real engineering, that has to be input into it right now). Increasing the volume of production doesn’t necessarily lead to the abandonment of the “good stuff”. You still have to compose the music and write the lyrics, the AI is not sophisticated enough to competently do that right now