[liuliu]

I agree it is more like e2teee, but I think there is really no alternative beyond TEE + anonymization. Privacy people want it locally, but it is 5 to 10 years away (or never, if the current economics works, there is no need to reverse the trend).

[shawnz]

There's FHE, but that's probably an even more difficult technical challenge than doing everything locally

[liuliu]

FHE is impossible. You cannot expect to compete on 100x more cost for the same service you provide (and there is no design for accelerated hardware (Tensor Core) on FHE).

[0xWTF]

Only 100x the cost? Really? Can you cite a reference how you get it that cheap?

[liuliu]

No need for the sarcasm. I am extremely generous about what FHE can achieve. Of course it is not 100x right now.

[gardnr]

FHE would be ideal. Relevant conversation from 6 months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44601023

[ignoramous]

> ... 5 to 10 years away (or never, if the current economics works...

Think PCs in 5y to 10y that can run SoTA multi-modal LLMs (cf Mac Pro) will cost as much as cars do, and I reckon folks will buy it.

[binary132]

ISTM that most people would rather give away their privacy than pay even a single cent for most things.