[csours]

I feel like there's a difference between AI used as a tool and AI used to make slop. Also, most AI music has weird noise in it that drives me insane.

I have to imagine* that we will figure out what that difference is, but it will be difficult and costly.

* I have to imagine that or else I will lose all hope in the future.

[d3rockk]

Fear not- there is research in this area~

https://caniphish.com/blog/how-to-spot-ai-audio

https://www.newgrounds.com/wiki/help-information/site-modera...

even coded detectors exist https://www.submithub.com/ai-song-checker?id=09f25ee7913a415...

[recursive]

If a detector can exist, it can be used adversarially without a human in the loop to defeat itself.

[zaptrem]

I’m a founder of one of these AI music companies and that noise you’re describing (it differs between co’s for us it’s loud vocals, for Suno it’s vocal aliasing/sandiness and mushy instrumentals, etc) is exactly why I think these songs should not be going on Spotify/etc.

We’ll have this (and the corny lyrics issue) mostly fixed in a month or so, then it mostly becomes a recommendations problem. For example, TikTok is filled with slop, but it’s not a problem - their algorithm helps the most creative/engaging stuff rise to the top. If Spotify is giving you Suno slop in your discover weekly (or really crappy 100% organic free range AI-free slop) blame Spotify, not the AI or the creators. There are really high effort and original creations that involve AI that deserve to be heard, though.

I suggest going back and listening to some of the first experimental electronic music. The tools have improved a lot since then and people have used them to do really cool things, even spawning countless genres.

[jplusequalt]

I'll blame Spotify, and your company.

[zaptrem]

See here for a truly random sample of human music: https://0xbeef.co.uk/random/soundcloud

Thankfully, most of it doesn't reach your Spotify feed. I think most of it is garbage, but I'd fight for the right of people to continue posting it. All things algorithmic have this exploration/exploitation, diversity/fidelity tradeoff and Spotify has theirs tuned very heavily toward exploitation/fidelity. I think there is a cool opportunity for someone to put the tradeoff dial into users hands.

[csours]

Ah, when I said "find out what the difference is", I meant more of a cultural understanding than technical.