[tptacek]

You're right, I'm not going to provide you evidence for this, my claim is that there's no need for me to do so, any more than I need to provide evidence that the sun rose this morning. Again: there's nobody here but me and you at this point, so there are no points to score.

It would be totally reasonable for you to break off this thread at this point (I normally would too), but if you want someone to talk to that isn't susceptible to wishcasting in either direction on this news event, I'm here for you.

[ebbi]

I won't continue, but it's great you clearly highlight your hypocrisy, and proves my thoughts on how people in the West get so easily led by their governments and media.

"no need for me to do so" or because you just can't? I'm not waiting for an answer. Just ask yourself that. Because at the moment, your methodology doesn't seem to be truth seeking.

[tptacek]

I don't even understand the point of writing something like this. Did you think you were going to call me names and I was just going to internalize that and shrivel up? I disagree with what you're saying. I do not find you persuasive. If the existence of people who disagree with you is that destabilizing, I think you have some soul-searching to do.

On the other hand, if the reason you're engaging on HN is to evangelize a particular geopolitical position, I can imagine disagreement is more problematic, but you should know that's an abuse of the site.