[Topgamer7]

I did build a charybdis, and I daily it. Its been great typing wise. I don't have any wrist issues anymore.

The trackball I don't use for any precision actions. Its useful if I want to hit a tab, or move to the other monitor. But trying to hit small links for example is painful. (That being said I am using the stock bearings, which don't seem to work well)

It was a significant expense for a keyboard, especially being a kit. Albeit my wrists are worth it.

[tortilla]

I'm enjoying my ZSA Voyager and Navigator (trackball) combo.

Out of picture, I also have a Magic Trackpad (right) and Logitech MX Anywhere 3 (left). I like to switch up my hand movements.

https://i.postimg.cc/TYMSMCT1/IMG-1528.jpg

[darkteflon]

Hello, fellow ZSA Voyager plus dual-weild aficionado! It’s great, isn’t it? I saw [this](https://evantravers.com/articles/2023/04/06/magsafe-tenting-...) here recently and promptly bought some mini-tripods and MagSafe adapters. Access to arbitrary tenting angles has been a big plus. I also have a 3D printed deck for it that sits over my MacBook keyboard and is quite nice. Don’t want to lose access to my Miryoku layout when on the move! Especially home row chording.

I also went down the switches rabbit hole and ended up with lighter weight switches under my pinkies, which I find quite pleasant.

I also dual-wield a Magic Trackpad (outside left) and Logitech Lift (which I have found to be vastly better for my wrist than a normal mouse, since it requires much less unnatural rotation).

I’m also looking forward to the ZSA trackpad attachment for the Voyager. Interested to see whether it’s an improvement on the excellent Magic Trackpad. As an avid Magic Trackpad user, what do you think of the trackball?

All in all, though, this kind of setup feels like something of final destination, don’t you think? No more desire to tinker and can see myself using it this way for decades - just replacing switches if / when they fail. I even have some spare keycaps which I bought from Tai-Hao (who manufacture the original keycaps, I believe). I bought the blanks from ZSA then sort of regretted it. They look so darn cool but made the transition to Miryoku harder than it needed to be.

Goodness gracious look how much I’ve written about my keyboard. My wife would find this very amusing.

[tortilla]

I love the the Voyager when I want to really focus or if I'm going to code for a long time (limits my arm movements and I'm more intentional). When I'm doom scrolling or being creative, I end up using the mouse (I'm looking at the Lift too) or the trackpad more.

Yes, it's my end game but I was pretty tempted by the go60 because of the wireless nature. https://www.moergo.com/pages/go60

[Topgamer7]

Do you find you use the trackball for precise movements? I wonder if a more polished product is any different than the Charybdis.

[tortilla]

I used the trackball for about 2 weeks straight when I got it. I felt I could do about 95% of movements I wanted pretty easily. Became like second nature. But I prefer the Magic Trackpad for its gestures. So basically I have 3 pointing devices on my desk now (LOL).