[lm28469]

They still have a brain capable of complex thoughts and should be able to prioritise long term health over short term pleasures.

Again I don't really care, I managed to help people around me following this dead simple recipe, if you want to make excuses for yourself or others go ahead and suffer. Suffering from obesity is much harder on the body and soul than "suffering" from skipping a snack or counting calories

[542354234235]

Wow, you have solved all mental illness. Just change the way your brain works so its normal. Brillant!

[infecto]

“Again I don’t really care”. Yet you keep coming back saying your way is the only way.

[lm28469]

I'm convinced it is but you can't help people who don't want to be helped. People who want to be helped get out of the problem in a matter of months.

Fix your shit, it's much better than taking pills for life to fix your obesity, which is arguably the very last link of a long chain of problems. Eat clean, exercise, understand that food is fuel, understand how the fuel is used, learn discipline, learn timing, learn to recognise good and bad fuels... pills won't do any of this, and being skinny won't bring health if you don't do/learn the things I just enumerated. Obese people need a complete lifestyle overall, not pills. No amount of pills will help if they keep everything else the same, and if they implement the changes they don't need the pills to begin with

[gtr]

I have done that multiple times in the past but there came a point where I couldn't "white knuckle" my diet any more. GLP-1 has really helped a much better quality of life - lower cravings for food and alcohol, meaning that I am losing weight and feeling cheerful instead of gritting my teeth.

Why is that so bad?

[lm28469]

What's your plan? pills for life? Life is tough, fighting cravings is on the easier side of what life's going to throw at us

[brianpbeau]

Yes. What's wrong with that? There are large portions of the population that already do that for other health related issues.

[amanaplanacanal]

We have decades of experience telling people to exercise more and eat better. If telling people those things worked, we would know by now. It doesn't. This is not in any way new.

[zobzu]

natural selection. you can only cheat it so far.

[brianpbeau]

Ah yes, the ever popular "they are just lazy or weak willed" rhetoric. Obesity is a disease just like addictions are. But I'm sure another round of "just try harder" pep talks and motivation posters will solve everything. Maybe stop for a moment and realize your perspective is narrow.