[bigyabai]

> that their legals will be telling them they simply don't HAVE to do this.

Their legals are, outright, telling them not to do this. Apple has an App Store monopoly, the moment Grok or X gets booted off then it's lawsuit time for them. Apple could at any point forfeit their monopoly by supporting third-party app distributors. But this is what they chose, and Apple has to balance the abuses with the judgement calls as a result.

> So they have recent experience to drive wanting not to act. It hurt last time.

What does that have to do with anything? Apple doesn't care how much things hurt their users. Any company that would suggest client-side-scanning is entirely willing to hurt their users, you just said it yourself: "most of them do ultimately involve the threat aspect of state actors"

[ggm]

Their decision to code CSAM "pink detecting" logic and deploy, hurt them. It hurt in terms of reputation, it hurt in terms of lost sales, and development costs which couldn't be recovered.

I wasn't discussing hurt to users.