[kasey_junk]

Copilot is garbage. I routinely run the same tasks, with same models as codex or Claude and copilot just cannot keep up. It’s really hard to convey to people how important the agent is right now.

That is, don’t judge the llm hype by copilot its staggeringly bad.

[al_borland]

Copilot has agent mode now, but it just destroys everything it touches. I don’t if this is the same agent as codex or Claude (if I pick the associated model within Copilot).

Copilot is all I have to go by, due to the work restrictions. It took a good year to get that. I don’t know if anything else is in the works.

I’ve made a couple things outside of work with ChatGPT, but they were so basic that it was hardly something to get excited about. If it can’t help me at work, it’s hard for me to care much.

[kasey_junk]

It is not the same. The agents (Claude code, codex) are the actual processes you’d interact with instead of copilot.

The choices those processes make about tool calls, using subagents, etc make a huge difference in the quality of result you’ll get. Copilot is just an extremely bad agent compared to the sota agents.

Several of the open source agents will out perform copilot regularly (try aider, open code or cline if you can). It’s really just a baffling own goal by Microsoft on how they’ve managed this.

[muzani]

Yeah, I think Copilot is partly responsible for the huge gap between people who distrust AI coding and those who are excited by it. It appears to be the most used tool, which also about covers the opinion gap.

A big part of the right agent is tool use. Even OpenAI Codex is poor.

You should be able to just screenshot a Jira ticket and paste it into a tool these days. It may not do the whole ticket, but it gets you half of the way, and at the very least puts you near the right file.