[tptacek]

UPF as in ultra-processed food? UPF designations are farcical; they're a modern formally-ratified instance of the naturalist fallacy. There are attributes of ultra-processed foods that are bad, but it's not the ultra-processing that makes it so; it's a very "correlation is causation" situation.

[beejiu]

The fundamental problem with UPF isn't the nutritional qualities of the food. It's the _process_ itself. UPF is basically derived from A/B testing food continuously to making it (a) highly consumable and (b) low cost. Repeat that process over decades and thousands of times and you get overconsumption of shit food.

[tptacek]

I think you mean highly palatable. Hyperpalatability is a real problem. But that's not intrinsic to "ultra-processing"; there are lots of reasons to "ultra-process" foods that aren't about maximizing caloric input.

[beejiu]

No, I mean consumable, as in spending dollars to buy a product. Palatability is an input to consumption. It drives consumption and profit.

[tptacek]

I mean, that's not as far as I know an actual commonly-used metric but it's closely enough aligned with hyperpalatability that I think the distinction doesn't matter.

[koziserek]

Large part of the molecules of my body were created by supernova

[aziaziazi]

Which ones? Aren’t you thinking about atoms instead?

[akerl_]

The molecules I’m aware of are all made of atoms.

[aziaziazi]

Those atoms were made in supernova, but the molecules themselves probably didn’t. It’s like saying "my car was made in a supernova" because it’s made of atoms. Sure…

[codezero]

In order to drive a car, you must first invent the Universe.