[Xiol]

> It starts with child abuse material, because who’s going to defend not catching that?

After the recent X CSAM generation arguments and the potential for X to get blocked in the UK, it seems like more people than I expected will defend it.

[ryandrake]

There were people on HN defending it. Although I'm sure they're 99% defending Musk, and only because they reflexively jump into defense mode any time one of his companies' wrongdoing is discussed. If it were Adobe's or Microsoft's products generating CSAM, you wouldn't hear a peep out of them

[dmitrygr]

I will defend absolute freedom of all speech by Musk and against Musk. By Adobe and against Adobe. My Microsoft and against Microsoft. By you and against you. By me and against me. Unlike many who merely theorize about this from their armchairs, I've lived in a place without free speech and I know what that leads to, how fast, and how hard it is to get out of that hole. There is no such thing as "let's just have a little less freedom of speech". It either exists or very quickly it does not.

[Symbiote]

You should be explicit here;

Should it be legal to (1) create and (2) distribute an AI generated sexual image of a (1) 18 year old, (2) 12 year old? (In both cases without their consent.)

What about a real photograph?

[dmitrygr]

Sexual abuse (of adults and of children) is abhorrent, illegal, and should remain so. A number cannot be illegal.

[overfeed]

> A number cannot be illegal.

Why equivocate? Go ahead and own it, tell us what you think about AI-generated CSAM using plain language.

gp had helpfully numbered questions that you could have said yes/no to.

[overfeed]

Unbelievable. Caping pedophelia on main - no throw-away. Is this were society is now?

[dmitrygr]

Unbelievable. People pretending not to understand something stated very clearly just to insult someone they don’t even know. Is this where society is now?

[overfeed]

>>> If it were Adobe's or Microsoft's products generating CSAM, you wouldn't hear a peep out of them

>> I will defend absolute freedom of all speech by Musk [...] By Adobe [...] [B]y Microsoft

Your support of the "absolute freedom" of "all speech" is very clear. If you somehow didn't mean the words you chose, then the lack of clarity is on you, and needs no pretense on my part.

[ryandrake]

About as unbelievable as electing one president.

[Canada]

The same pretext has been deployed in Australia as well. I'm not sure if the Carney government will also try.

I don't think anyone is defending it. It's all astroturf.

[ekjhgkejhgk]

> After the recent X CSAM generation arguments

X installs went UP the in UK when the gov said "X allows you to generate child porn, lets block it". Thousands of brits go "free child porn on X better check it out"