[Flux159]

"What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_and_Bill%27s_law

On a more serious note, I really only use Windows for games & I'm still always frustrated with how many updates (& restarts during updates) Windows needs. My fans are always constantly spinning on Windows too (laptop or desktop) whereas my Mac & Linux machines are generally silent outside of heavy load.

[skrebbel]

This is common for any self-updating software that you use infrequently.

A friend of mine complained that he hated how Firefox "always" wants to restart with an update. I couldn't understand what he was on about. Turned out I use Firefox daily and he uses it like once every 2 months to test something and yeah, Firefox has an update out every 2 months or so, so that fits.

It's the same with Windows (and, I assume, macOS). Use Windows more and the updater will disappear out of sight.

[Mathnerd314]

I update Linux maybe once a year. Sure, there are security vulnerabilities. But I'm behind a firewall. And meanwhile, I don't have to spend any time dealing with update issues.

[wobfan]

But Windows is made for the big masses. It's definitely a good thing that Microsoft forces Auto-Updates, because otherwise 95% of people would run around with devices that have gaping security holes. And 90% of these people are not being a firewall 100% of their time.

Side effect unfortunately is that they are shoving ad- and bloatware down your throat through these updates.

But that is, because Microsoft does not care about the end user at all. It's not the fault of auto-updates.

[dawnerd]

My Mac doesn’t randomly reboot, doesn’t force updates on shutdown, doesn’t have weekly updates that require updates. IMO Apple handles updates much better than Windows.

Windows still reboots instead of shut down when you do update and shut down.

[spixy]

They fixed it recently: https://www.techpowerup.com/342538/windows-11-finally-fixes-...

[dawnerd]

It must have regressed again, just happened this morning.

[blibble]

> My fans are always constantly spinning on Windows too (laptop or desktop) whereas my Mac & Linux machines are generally silent outside of heavy load.

defender seemingly needs to check every 10ms that you still don't have a virus

[blep-arsh]

I'm always amused by these occasional "you still don't have any viruses" popup notifications from Defender. Well, good to know, thank you very much, I guess.

[spikej]

Cannot even reliably permanently disable real time scanning...

[thesnide]

I'm now even using wine & proton for it. Thanks to Valve only very few games don't work.

And it's not that i don't like windows, it is just too damn slow for me.

And no. I do not want to upgrade my gear every 2 years or so

[zamadatix]

I feel like I've been monkeys-pawed with the downfall of Windows for gaming. I.e. rather than being at the point where everything just works best/easiest in my Bazzite install it's a game of DRM, modding tool support, feature support, and random "this game runs better on Windows, this game runs better on Bazzite" discovery. Also Windows/Steam OS clone/"normal Linux" setups all have their own very awkward corners around the non-gaming portions. I've not found one that does not require substantial tweaking to get a usable all around experience unless you buy a device to use as more a dedicated gaming console (Xbox/Steam Deck type device).

I miss the ~mid Windows 7 era. Not that everything ran perfectly without issues on Windows 7 at the time, particularly old games, but at least there was an option good enough to assume to always go with first instead of "see if the games you play work best here".

[Der_Einzige]

All the games that "don't work" are the games that PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAY!

It's always hardcore multiplayer games with the actual crowd. Using linux for gaming is a great way to continue down the path to becoming a recluse.

[ultra2d]

It really depends on what you play. I've been playing online co-op regularly with a bunch of friends since Covid times. We're jumping to new (well, on sale) games regularly, and the only recent time I booted to Windows was because a 4-player mod for Remnant II _might_ not work on Linux. Can't remember the previous game that did not work on Linux. I'm so used to things working without major tinkering that I forget to check protondb most of the time.

[thesnide]

I actually don't like to play with random people on the internet.

I prefer the comfort of knowing them, and usually do it in the old basement LAN party way.

In my young time we didn't have internet, and we were actually LESS recluse overall ;-)

[wtetzner]

So if you don't play popular multiplayer games you're a recluse?

Plenty of people play single player games, and simply socialize outside of games...

[everdrive]

I play Helldivers 2 on Linux, and there are TONS of people playing.

[demosito666]

And yet the battery in your Linux laptop dies 2x faster...