[jasonfarnon]

Is the argument just that the MNR and NYC subway, or Boston's T and commuter rail, are better integrated than BART and the Caltrain? Seems pretty great now but then I remember before the renovations at 4th and King.

[jerlam]

My argument is that Caltrain mainly connects the two most largest and richest cities in the SF Bay Area, which are both population and job centers.

It would be like calling the Google private shuttles a model for public buses to follow.