[nebula8804]

>and other car makes are slowing down or cancelling EV developments.

The sales didn't materialize plus they were forced to do so by governments and short term investors that saw Tesla's stock shoot up. Now GM is writing off ~7 billion dollars. Whats worse is when Dems take back the white house, they will force the automakers to go back to green again. This back and forth is going to lead to disaster.

[brianwawok]

I’m not sure dems are willing to go out on a limb for EVs. Other environmental things sure, but EV has become kind of toxic over the last 5 years. Which is a shame.

[nebula8804]

They pushed it hard during the Biden years. Thats partly why GM went so hard into it. If they manage to really elect an AOC type candidate next time, they will definitely go back to it. Maybe if they get a Fetterman like candidate, they will back off but I dont think thats going to happen given everything that has transpired election wise over the last year or so.

[lovich]

>The sales didn't materialize plus they were forced to do so by governments and short term investors that saw Tesla's stock shoot up. Now GM is writing off ~7 billion dollars. Whats worse is when Dems take back the white house, they will force the automakers to go back to green again.

Ah yes, the terrible force of getting EV subsidies, which the Republicans have now cancelled causing the writeoff. How dare the Dems force the Republicans to do that?

[nebula8804]

The $7,500 credit is not really what I am talking about. Most of the 7 Billion in investment came during the Biden years due to pressure (from the administration as well as investors). So the industry complied, spent the money, built all these factories, terminated ICE programs and supply chains and now they are forced to write off a lot of this investment because the market is not there in the US.

[jdlshore]

What specifically was the nature of that pressure from the administration?

From the outside, it looks like classic Innovators’ Dilemma. Traditional automakers failing to adapt to a radically different drivetrain is practically guaranteed under Christensen’s hypothesis.

[specialist]

GM, Ford, etc. recognize the existential threat posed by Chinese competition, proactively pivoted, then had those efforts sabotaged, with prejudice.

[panick21_]

Much of that money is inefficient infrastructure that didn't have that much of an effect. The car makers didn't go hard with EV because of politics. They got into it because Tesla was making 25% margin on mass market EV and it looked like EV were taking over in massive way. Politics didn't hurt but the direction was pretty clear.

The problem is the traditional companies fell all over-themselves making grand promises without having any understanding, and putting in huge amounts of money while having not enough understanding of the market and supply chain dynamics.

Announcing like 4 gigantic battery factories when you have never built a battery and you barley understand the supply chain for most of the components isn't a great plan.