[shellwizard]

Don't forget about Doom (1993) and Doom 2 (1994), 30 years old and still have a large community of users and mappers, even John Romero released episodes 5 and 6 for the original Doom. On the other hand I used to play some single player maps for Q1 some years ago, the site [quaddicted](https://www.quaddicted.com/) was wonderful

[ferguess_k]

Yeah DOOM definitely has a large community too, maybe even a larger one than Quake. Kind interesting how some games enjoy large communities while others do not. e.g. Blood and Duke Nukem 3d are both very good games but their communities are smaller.

[hananova]

I think in this particular case the cause it pretty obvious. For Doom you have Ultimate Doom Builder and Doom Tools. For Quake you have Trenchbroom. For blood and duke nukem, you don't.

[ferguess_k]

They do have a modern version of mapeitor but yeah it's probably not as good as the other two, especially Trenchbroom.