[undeveloper]

> attention span

The meme of 'ADHD as the "fucked up attention span disorder"' has done immeasurable damage to people, neurotypical and ADHD alike. it is the attribute that is the least important to my life, but most centered towards the neurotypical, or the other people it bothers.

> modern life fucks up your attention span

That said, this statement is true, it's just a fundamental misunderstanding of ADHD as "dog like instinct to go chase a squirrel" or whatever. Google is free, so is Chatgpt if that's too hard.

> I'm not sure it's healthy to want to put a label on everything

I don't particularly care for microlabeling, but it's usually harmless, nothing suggest the alternative of "just stop talking about your problems" is better. People create language usually because they want to label a shared idea. This is boomer talk (see "remember facebook?" no)

> or medicate to fall back on the baseline

I'm not sure "If you have ADHD you should simply suffer because medicine is le bad" is a great stance, but you're allowed I suppose

[ajam1507]

Is it really a meme if "fucked up attention span" is one of the hallmarks of the disorder?

[lm28469]

> it is the attribute that is the least important to my life

still one of the most common symptom, and the one everyone use to self diagnose...

> because medicine is le bad

idk man, I've seen the ravage of medicine one people close to me. Years of adhd medicine, anti depressants pills, anti obesity treatments... They're still non functional, obese and depressed, but now they're broke and think there truly is no way out of the pit because they "tried everything" (everything besides not playing video games 16 hours a day, eating junk food 24/7 and never going out of their bedroom, but the doctors don't seem to view this as a root cause)

Whatever you think, I believe some things are over prescribed to the point of being a net negative to society. I never said adhd doesn't exist or shouldn't be treated btw, you seem to be projecting a lot of things. If it works for you good, personally I prefer to change my environment to fit how my brain/body works, not influence my body/brain by swallowing side effects riddled pills until death to fit in the fucked up world we created and call "normality"

[habinero]

> I prefer to change my environment to fit how my brain/body works, not influence my body/brain by swallowing side effects riddled pills

Just try harder to make insulin, bro. You can outthink that t1 diabetes if you try hard enough.

This weird macho resistance to and scorn of anyone using the mental tools we have available is why men kill themselves at a much higher rate. There is no award for who struggled the most in life.

Do they always work? No. Do they work for a lot of people? Sure do. Can they be replaced with diet and exercise and different circumstances? Yeah, sometimes. Is that realistic? Not usually.

They aren't magic. They don't forcibly make you happy or change your personality or make your problems go away. You still have to do the work. But they're a crane to help lift the crushing weight you're under so you can shimmy out from under it.

If you don't want to use them, fine, but not using them doesn't make you a better person.

[undeveloper]

> still one of the most common symptom, and the one everyone use to self diagnose...

I, and pretty much everyone I talked to who was diagnosed with adhd in late teenage years on, actually primarily used executive dysfunction to self diagnose and then persued official treatment. you pulled that straight outta your asshole, shove it back up there

> doctors don't seem to view this as a root cause

how the hell would doctors know? bring this to any psych and they'd immediately tell you to knock that shit off, but what the hell else are they supposed to do?

> I never said adhd doesn't exist or shouldn't be treated btw

your opinions seems to boil down to "lmao just try harder", which seems less useful than throwing pills at the problem. you have the mental model of a cat

> proooojecting

the words of someone who can't articulate their position