[Jtsummers]

EU and NATO, NATO is larger than the EU itself. It would be a political, economic, and military disaster (even if the US "wins" the conflict) for the US. Losing 31 ally nations (possibly more) overnight and all those facilities would be a long-term military disaster, and a longer-term political disaster. Who would ever ally with the US again for the next several decades knowing that the US will turn on allies?

[dadadanda]

There is no law of geopolitical physics that says regime change operations must be confined to developing countries. In the event of a serious deterioration in US-EU relations you shouldn't expect the US to sit idle. The European far right does not care about Greenland one bit.

We could very well end up in a situation where we have the US and Russia working together to destabilize the EU, perhaps European leaders fear this and will let Greenland go.

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https://www.elysee.fr/en/emmanuel-macron/2026/01/06/joint-st...

[Glawen]

The effects are probably more profound that just losing allies. It also could crash financial market, and tech wise would force EU to develop it's own industry, like baidu or yandex

[Jtsummers]

>> economic

I included the economic disaster in my list. I just felt that I needed to explain why I considered it a military disaster even though the US could likely "win" Greenland. It would lose Europe and the ability to project military power through Europe. This impacts the ability to project power in Africa and the Middle East. It'll lead to a cascading military failure which leads to lots of other problems including further economic problems.

[mindcrash]

> Losing 31 ally nations (possibly more) overnight and all those facilities would be a long-term military disaster, and a longer-term political disaster.

And they should also consider all equipment, munition and weapons stored at those facilities, including the B61 nukes, null and void. Because their former NATO allies will never ever allow the US to take equipment which could be used against them later on back home.

And if they come with the argument "But that is against international law", they should have thought about that before illegally abducting a foreign president from a country at peace according to those same international laws.

[gigatexal]

This. I would hope for this. Let them take Greenland to save lives. But while the win the battle they lose the war. No more NATO. No more allies in Europe. The next time something goes wrong America will be alone because Trump ruined anything decent with America.

[twixfel]

Trump already has ruined America. I'm not sure Americans understand how alienating this stuff is. As a formerly very Atlanticist Brit who used to genuinely look up to America and thought we had so much to learn from it, this shit is completely insane. The Americans have gone insane.

[gigatexal]

I’m an expat living in Berlin. Trust me. I can’t believe how bad it’s gotten. Maybe entropy and his bad diet will fix things … problem is JD Vance is even worse.