[gorbot]

Come on man. Really? You think this is a good argument?

Why not charge the people who make my glasses cuz they help me see the CP? Why not charge computer monitor manufacturers? Why not charge the mine where they got the raw silicon?

Here you have a product which itself straight up produces child porn with like absolutely zero effort. Very different than some object which happens to be used, photograph materials

Nikon doesn't sell a 1-minute child porn machine, xAI apparently does.

Maybe you think child porn machines should be sold?

[mrtksn]

Of course it’s not the same thing but still doesn’t make sense to use companies as police. I’m sure it’s much easier than with Nikon but the wast majority of its users aren’t doing it, just go after those who do instead of demanding that the companies do the police work.

If it was a case where CSAM production becomes mainstream use case I would have agreed but it is not.

[gorbot]

> instead of demanding that the companies do the police work

How hard is this? What are they doing now, and is it enough? Do we know how hard they are trying?

For argument's sake, what if they had truly zero safegaurd around it, you could type "generate child porn" and it would 100% of the time. Surely you'd agree they should prevent that case, and be held accountable if they never took action to prevent it.

Regulation, clear laws around this would help. Surely they could try go get some threshold of difficulty in place that is a requirement to adhere to preventing.

[mrtksn]

No, I don't agree that they should prevent it.

I'm not in CP so I don't try to make it generate such content but I'm very annoyed that all providers are trying to lecture me when I try to generate anything about public figures for example. Also, these preventive measures are not working well at all, yesterday I had one denying to generate infinite loop claiming its dangerous.

Just throw away this BS about safety and jail/fine whomever commits crime with these tools. Make tools tools again and hold people responsible for the stuff they do with these tools.

[monkaiju]

Im not saying the companies should necessarily do the police work, though they absolutely should not release CP-generators. What I am saying is the companies should be held responsible for making the CP. Sure the user who types "make me some CP" can be held accountable too, but the creators/operators of the CP-generator should as well.

[mrtksn]

Which company released CP? As far as I’m concerned we are talking about users using some tools to generate CP. It should be handled by the authorities