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by beezlebroxxxxxx 161 days ago
Using samples is not the same as AI or creating AI videos. Nor is using photoshop or an editing suite.

"Creating" AI art is analogous to commissioning a work of art from someone else.

Person A put in a request to person B, pers. A receives a mockup or a draft from pers. B, pers. A and B might engage in convos to refine the work, pers. B delivers the final product to pers. A. AI "artists" are person A in that scenario.

Sampling, like FatboySlim, or many other producers, is clearly not person A in that scenario. They're exerting intentional, direct, creative control. Creating AI art is mediated in a way that is far more indirect and stochastic. The creative inputs in AI art is more directly the text in the prompt rather than the output. Editing the output afterwards is creative input afterwards, though. However, sign a work you commissioned from someone else as your own and people will probably roll their eyes, which I think describes most reactions to AI videos.

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> Using samples is not the same as AI or creating AI videos. Nor is using photoshop or an editing suite.

It is very similar. You are using a piece of software to aid in the creative process.

In these cases, you are remixing previous artistic works to create a new one.

> "Creating" AI art is analogous to commissioning a work of art from someone else.

Depends what you are doing and how you are using the AI. So this isn't always the case.

If all they did was "Take Thriller but make it look like an anime". I would agree. But there is obviously more happening than that.

> Sampling, like FatboySlim, or many other producers, is clearly not person A in that scenario. They're exerting intentional, direct, creative control. Creating AI art is mediated in a way that is far more indirect and stochastic.

No often I've created some basic stuff and you really have to tell it exactly what you want, often make sure it has the right images, fonts etc.

I could do the exactly the same in GIMP. It would just take me longer as I will have to watch a YouTube tutorial for the 5th time on how to add a text shadow to some text as I use GIMP about like twice a week and forget how to do stuff.

So what is the difference between me providing commands via a prompt to make an image, as opposed to using a mouse and keyboard in GIMP? How I am inputting the instructions? There is a bit more abstraction.

However one is considered creative by you and another isn't, because there is a slight loss of direct control.

Similar with these AI parodies there is obviously a lot of work done in getting the AI to produce the output they want. Especially considering some of the characters are obscure individuals.

There is a creative process taking place. Just because you've used AI (which at the end of the day is a piece of software) doesn't invalidate that process taking place. It doesn't mean the creative process is done by the AI either.