[pjmlp]

Over here, it is DB2, SQL Server or Oracle if using a plain RDMS, or whatever DB abstraction layer is provided on top of a SaaS product, where we get to query with some kind of ORM abstraction preventing raw SQL, or GraphQL, without knowing the implementation details.

[sandos]

This sounds like a flashback to J2EE. Which I know is still alive and well. Banks, insurance companies and the tax agency do not much care for fancy new stuff, but that it works.

[pjmlp]

Yep, Fortune 500 enterprise consulting, boring technology that pays the bills.

Java, .NET, C++, nodejs, Sitecore, Adobe Experience Manager, Optimizely, SAP, Dynamics, headless CMSes,...

[sanderjd]

Never felt so old, seeing nodejs in a list of old boring stuff.

[pjmlp]

Yeah, it is on the edge, but unavoidable in many Web projects.

[chasd00]

I describe these techs like garbage trucks. No one likes to see them but they’re there every day doing a decent part of what it takes to hold society together hah.

[pjmlp]

Scott Hanselman has a good term for all these kind of jobs, the dark matter developers.

https://www.hanselman.com/blog/dark-matter-developers-the-un...