[FpUser]

>"Why not take up cycling?"

I was a cycling maniac for some time. It fucks one up (knees, back, elbows) anyways. After 10 years of that I cut it down to occasional pleasure rides. Luckily all my pains had stopped after a couple of years.

[carbonbioxide]

isn't jogging more impactful to the knees than cycling? I've seen this over and over.

[tybit]

Yes, but it’s a common misconception that impact is a bad thing.

The body, including bones, muscles, tendons and joints, adapt to stress. Many people do too little, not too much, as they get older.

There’s a limit to that recovery of course, and balancing it with stress is not always simple.

[FpUser]

I no longer regularly jog / run / cycle, only occasionally for pleasure. I either swim or hike steep hills or if weather is ugly just put treadmill on 15% incline and walk very fast for an hour or so. Wastes energy like crazy and leaves my knees intact.

[prmoustache]

I think diversifying the physical activities is a good thing.

Also avoiding using your domotics, motorized vehicles, elevators and escalators, kitchen/cleaning robots/electric devices when there are manual replacement as well as not using domotic, does a super job on its own.

People have become lazy, pretend they don't have time to do stuff, then have to actually dedicate additionnal time so that their body doesn't suffer from their lazyiness. This is bonkers.

One day my brother saw me shirtless and asked me if I was going to the gym. I said no, I just have 2 young kids, carry my groceries including cat litter by foot, use a shovel to clear snow, use a manual coffee grinder and kitchen whisk and only use my car when it would take me more than 1 hours / 30kms by bicycle, etc. And I had an office job. Being active, fit and healthy shouldn't involve having to "exercise".

[kakacik]

There is the downhill part of the hikes, unless you have ski lifts or similar way of getting down. I used to do running a bit before major paragliding accident, and I hiked like there is no tomorrow and still do... subjectively the hiking down part felt more stressful on knees than running (maybe not on concrete/tarmac).

[riku_iki]

> isn't jogging more impactful to the knees than cycling? I've seen this over and over.

my brief reading of studies shows there is no proven negative impact on knees from running. Some studies suggest there is positive impact: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11320545/

I can speculate that running is very natural to human, and body evolved for running through the evolution, and cycling is not natural movement.

[kaffekaka]

Running absolutely impacts the knees, but the compression of meniscus for example is what circulates nutrients into it so some impact is necessary for healthy knees as well.

[lostlogin]

A poorly adjusted cleat is absolute hell on the knee.

It can be difficult to fix too as once your knee is sore it takes ages to come right so it’s not clear if adjusting the cleat is working.

[prmoustache]

Most people don't need clipless pedals and only do that to mimick pros or because they were told to by other cyclists.

This is stupid (saying that as an ex elite road, track and cyclocross racer).

[lostlogin]

Maybe not, do what suits but I find it helps, particularly over longer distances or up hills.

I’ve never tried real cleats, I just use mounting biking ones, spd. Doubled sided pedals seem easier in traffic and I use them for a decidedly non-pro 2-300km a week.

[FpUser]

I used both and do not see much difference in efficiency. clipless do feel somewhat nicer but that was just a habit. Do not use those any more

[prmoustache]

it is mostly poor fit that fucks one up but sadly very few bike shops offer decent fit/positionning before and after sale service.

[FpUser]

>"it is mostly poor fit that fucks one up"

This what they all say to sell "custom fit" services. I now how to fit and have access to pro level fit rig.

[prmoustache]

Maybe not that well.