[fancyfredbot]

Windows 11 usage is declining. The Xbox is selling vastly less than Sony/Nintendo. PC gamers are moving to SteamOS and Linux. The billions poured into OpenAI no longer look so smart given very competitive offerings elsewhere.

Despite all this they still have a hugely profitable business, a pretty decent OS under all the adware, and a defacto monopoly on business productivity software.

[bdangubic]

first paragraph is why we should be selling or second?

[therealpygon]

Corporations get their software into businesses through the exact same process software gets replaced in those companies… usually through IT and/or users using things personally who become their champions.

So which paragraph do you think was more relevant to their recommendation…the one where they already have most of the customers they will ever have, or the one where people are increasingly moving away from them in their daily lives?

[bdangubic]

in just last 5 months they got two new corporate customers with 1400 and 550 employees. and this is just me, one nobody that knows about. if you think they are not getting new corporate customers not daily but hourly you mite be tad misinformed.

as an exercise see how many job openings there are where you won’t be using MSFT products if you get the gig :)

[therealpygon]

Likely using a rather generous definition of “new”. There is a difference between a new customer, and buying a license. Im also fairly doubtful that every server, docker, vm, and appliance is also running Windows. And even if said 2000 users are using Windows for absolutely every system, it’s still a meaningless anecdote about a drop in the bucket. I don’t think anyone suggested that Microsoft doesn’t have customers? But I suspect they were far from “new” customers, even if a new company, because I guarantee something somewhere was replaced for every one of them; bankrupt businesses they replaced, old hardware, whatever. Arguing the opposite would certainly seem to be naive on face.

[bdangubic]

wasn't expecting to read that Microsoft is not getting new corporate customers but here we are, you learn something new every day :)

none of this is anecdotal, I make a living as contractor and in just past two years have worked on numerous moving-to-microsoft projects, Oracle to SQL Server, AWS to Azure, Sharepoint etc etc... I am not a fan of MSFT by any means but what you are writing makes absolutely no sense. You should read MSFT quarterly earnings reports and not read few anecdotal things people on HN write about MSFT. It is M7 for a reason and practically has no competition (which is why they are able to do shit like Windows 11 and Copilot and... people on HN might be bitching but it is just for entertainment purposes)

[therealpygon]

Anecdotes like “I’ve done blah blah over two years”? Correct, I ignore anecdotes just like that. You can argue whatever you like — you seem to be heavily financially motivated to do so while I neither own Microsoft stock nor earn my money by convincing people to use their products. As a result, feel free to continue your evangelism while I go ahead and extricate myself from your sphere of biases.