[throw-12-16]

A lot of people woke up to the news and had their initial "Are we the bad guys?" moment.

As a non American its pretty funny to watch.

[mattmaroon]

No, they didn’t, and if your media tells you that’s what’s happening, it’s either misinformed or propaganda (or both).

Our political left already thinks we’re the bad guys. Our political right is posting pictures of eagles on Facebook. Nobody feels any different than they did yesterday.

[jacquesm]

If they don't that's on them.

[mattmaroon]

Why? It really isn’t anything new. The only new thing is the admission it is for oil, which we usually pretend it isn’t.

Those of us who are opposed to it probably didn’t vote for Trump and surely have no foreign policy influence, which is the same as when Bush invaded Iraq. Same old song and dance.

[jacquesm]

Because you should update your figures based on past performance.

If you don't see this as anything new then that is not in my power to change. To me it is something new.

[mattmaroon]

This isn’t out of line with past performance. We have spent decades toppling regimes. Basically since WW2.

Hows this any different than what we did to Noriega? Saddam? Qaddafi?

That’s my original point, to anyone who is paying attention it’s already been priced in. The method was novel perhaps, but nothing else about it was anything different. I’m not that old and I’ve already seen it happen several times.

If somebody punches you in the face from Monday through Friday, then they punch you in the face on Saturday you probably don’t feel any different about them on Sunday.

[jacquesm]

True, those are good examples and in particular Noriega because there are some close parallels.

Even so I think this was not exactly expected. It makes me wonder how close we are to an actual invasion of Mexico, Cuba, Canada or Greenland.