[KetoManx64]

How about you do some research on the kind of healthcare that people in countries with socialized healthcare receive. 6 month waitlists for a cancer screenings, multi day emergency room waits for broken bones, maybe you've heard of the oh so wonderful death pods in Canada? Our system is by no means the best, but I'll take it any day over socialized systems.

[jayelem]

This is not my experience in Canada. It is not the experience of anyone I know. There are often long wait times in ERs for things that are non urgent. I waited 5 or 6 hours my last visit after initial assessment. I’ve known a few people that had life threatening cancers here: they were treated quickly, and compassionately by the health care system. There are bad wait times for some things: a hearing assessment took 6 months (there are private options for this but many people would rather wait - they trust the system more). There is a shortage of family doctors. Medications are not fully covered. But I promise you we have no death pods in our hospitals. If you get hit by a car, diagnosed with cancer, need an X-ray, a breathing test, etc. You get that care. It’s nowhere near perfect, but I’m thankful for it and most people I know feel similarly.

[acdha]

Can you cite the sources you researched? I’ve known people from all over the world and none of them found that to be true: the American healthcare system was commented on in disbelief over both the cost and difficulty of getting treatment compared to where they had previously lived.

[KetoManx64]

The first result when you Google Canada's healthcare waiting lists: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7292524/

Yes it is. The system has some very deep issues due to government involvement/meddling with both healthcare and insurance, but at least you can still receive life saving treatment in a timely manner.

They can be in disbelief all the want, but when people in countries with socialized healthcare get cancer or other life threatening medical conditions they come to the US and a private healthcare to get treated.

[acdha]

That’s one country, and I note that the authors of that paper directly contradict your thesis: “the Commonwealth Fund’s survey results show that other universal health care systems (eg, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Australia, and France) have much shorter wait times than Canada does”

The American system is also not looking so good as our wait times have been going up and access has been worsening for much of the country, especially over the last year.

[adi_kurian]

5 million people in the OECD come to the US every year to get created for their cancer?

[project2501a]

I did: Greece, UK, France, Saudi Arabia, Japan and now Norway.

Never paid a single dime out of pocket as a diabetic.

> so wonderful death pods in Canada?

propaganda at it's height.

[DANmode]

Yeah, but those systems won’t hide breaking research like checks notes antioxidants and high-dose Vitamin D from cancer patients, so…