[chasil]

I would not agree. Intelligence operatives are often in place for long durations in hostile sovereign territory, and some were likely used in this event. Their presence is not an invasion.

Air operations also are not seen as invasions, and the recent stealth strikes by the U.S. in Iran are not seen this way.

It appears to me that armed troops in place that are taking and holding territory for a prolonged duration are the definition.

The dictionary definition below is "the incursion of an army for conquest or plunder."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/invasion

Is Maduro and his wife "plunder?" That would stretch this meaning, I think.

[dpark]

> Is Maduro and his wife "plunder?" That would stretch this meaning, I think.

Sure. But “We are going to run the country” sounds an awful lot like “conquest”.

[chasil]

When a standing army is involved, then we will all agree that it is an invasion.

If it comes by financial aid to the elected president and oil deals to rehabilitate PDVSA, then it is not.

[dpark]

Okay but you chose to point to the Mirriam-Webster definition that doesn’t say anything about a standing army or holding territory.

"the incursion of an army for conquest or plunder."

We sent in an army for conquest but now you don’t like that definition anymore.

[chasil]

What exactly was the object of conquest?

"something conquered, especially : territory appropriated in war"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conquest

Is this Maduro and his wife?

The object of conquest remains to be seen, and if a standing army is used to achieve it.

[dpark]

We have the president of the United States, who ordered the assault, saying openly that “we are going to run the country” and you ask what the object of conquest was?

[chasil]

It has to be taken and held by a standing army.

While that may come to pass, I think today we should call what has happened an "extra-judicial kidnapping" for the purposes of federal prosecution.

That is frightening enough.

Edit: if the Maduro kidnapping is an invasion, then it follows that the Eichmann kidnapping was likewise.

https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/136/israel-kidnaps-ado...

[UncleMeat]

Trump is on fucking television saying "this is going to make us a lot of money."