| I think you’ve swallowed your own propaganda pill and are having a hard time digesting it. Yes, warfare has changed - but Russia’s war-fighting doctrine has changed along with it. Their war industry is ramping up to meet these challenges, and anyone paying actual attention, rather than being spoon-fed nightly news’ hot takes or funker530 clips, can see this on the ground. > they didn't plan it anyway So, where in the SMO doctrine did they ever make the claim their goal was to capture all of Ukraines cities? They’ve captured the cities they set out to capture. But .. You’ve clearly educated yourself about their military goals - so where is it stated in the SMO that this constant capture of cities is one of their goals? Not your Western-propaganda spoonfed standard, actually theirs. Perhaps you see this conflict from the perspective of a sports fan - but I assure you, the Russians do not. > I can't believe you can be so delusional, it's just amazing what russian propaganda does to people. “Doubleplusgood groupthink, ungood, wrongthink rectify.” If you think Russia are the only ones using propaganda to obfuscate the nature of this conflict, it is you who is delusional. Take a step back, have a look at the actual state of things on the ground, compare it to the stated goals which were put forth at the beginning of this SMO, and lets continue to discuss this rationally, if you can. So far Russia has got what it wanted - a buffer corridor to Sebastopol, control over the eastern oblasts, destruction of NATO bio-weapons labs, and a massive degradation of Ukraines military capabilities. Yes, perhaps at a far greater cost than intended, but nevertheless, today they are in control over the territory they set out to control. Just because I’m willing to see this doesn’t mean I support Russia - or Ukraine for that matter - because I seriously don’t, but I’m also not going to just kowtow to western media. I’ll look for myself at the conflict from both sides and make my own assessment based on real facts on the ground. BTW, I live within a few hours driving distance from this conflict, have worked with assisting refugees arriving in my region for two years now, and have formed my own opinion by direct contact with those involved in the conflict as a priority over any information gleaned from mass media. I strive to avoid the propaganda, which is why we’re having this discussion in the first place. |
I see this from the perspective of a Ukrainian living in Kyiv. Your ignorance is mind-boggling, and after the laughable mention of "NATO biolabs" there's truly no sense in further conversation. These tinfoil-head "I do my own research" people are something else.