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by miroljub 161 days ago
They now employ minors?

Besides, how realistic is a fear that a law abiding citizen would be endangered by the ICE?

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If you are brown, pretty realistic given the number of brown citizens ICE has deported. [1]

[1] https://nipnlg.org/news/press-releases/ice-deports-man-claim...

How many is it? Your link gets us to 1, and it's from months ago. I expected you to link the number since you're claiming it's high.

Supposedly there's been 500k deportations, and 2.5m "self-deportations" in 2025, so what would be high here?

Edit: I also googled that man's name. A quick read of nbcs article suggests it's not clear he's a citizen. The judge said he "had a substantial claim to citizenship," which means nothing either way. He was born in Thailand.

"In his Nov. 3 brief, [a lawyer] contends Souvannarath stayed in the United States for 19 years after his removal order without challenging it or seeking proof of citizenship."

> Supposedly there's been 500k deportations, and 2.5m "self-deportations" in 2025

I love how you get to use unconfirmed bullshit numbers in your argument but then demand an exact count for the opposition to mix with your nonsense.

Well I have an exact count already of deported citizens in 2025: zero.

The official DHS statistics quote over 605k deported: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-a...

The guardian says 327,000 a few weeks ago: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/ice-detentio...

You do the math

“I’m quoting the numbers from the fascists themselves. See they’re doing nothing wrong!”
Okay, how many people do you think they've deported?
Several law abiding citizens have been caught up in the ice dragnet. Pay attention.
Several? Like three?

3/600,000 removals in 2025 = .000005% chance

So, to answer his question: not realistic at all that you'll get deported as a citizen. That's without fact checking you. I haven't seen anything about actual citizens being removed, including in the sibling comment claiming it with a reference.

> Besides, how realistic is a fear that a law abiding citizen would be endangered by the ICE?

Perhaps you are having trouble following the conversation. The argument put forth by OP is that ICE is endangering american citizens. That is factually true.

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...

Oh sorry, you snuck that and changed the subject in while we were taking about people being deported, to try to salvage a point.

I'm way more concerned with regular law enforcement endangering American citizens than ICE.

I didn’t sneak anything in - you failed to follow a thread. Why are you trying to put that on me? It’s okay to admit fault and take responsibility. It is obvious at this point that you do not care or won’t take the time to understand the conversation or respond in good faith.

My concern covers all LEO fucking with American citizens, especially the masked and unidentified ones.

So anyway, per your link: 170 citizens "wrapped up" by ice during between 327,000 and 605,000 deportations, depending on which source you like (I linked them in a different response to you in another thread).

Between .0005% and .0003% chance that if ICE grabs someone up, they're a citizen. I think that's a pretty good record, actually. I don't think it's very alarming.

We have 348 million citizens, 170 got held for...days! While we conducted the most effective deportation of illegals in history.

I'm pretty sure ICE isn't going to accidentally get me. This problem may as well be non-existent.

What's real is actual citizens wrapped up in actual bullshit with regular LEO. With probably several orders of magnitude difference, wouldn't you agree? Maybe thousands per day, instead of 170 per year? Costing folks more than a few days' detention.

Why do you figure they're wearing masks?

0.0005%*