[9dev]

For almost all cases, there is absolutely zero need to ever remember addresses, or dealing with them directly. Give your devices proper names, and your router’s DNS will handle resolution automatically.

There is no point in your network having sequential addresses, so you don’t need DHCP; routers advertise configuration, clients know where to look for it.

IPv6 is amazing, if you let it handle connectivity without trying to micromanage it.

[Ekaros]

I think this is the big hangup. Wanting to micromanage each and every address. Instead of letting it just manage itself. Reminds me on some level of the pet vs cattle of containers and servers. Mental switch is needed. And many are resistant towards this.

[globular-toast]

One thing I've noticed is if people have spent a long time learning something they are incredibly reluctant to switch to something that no longer requires that knowledge. It's like driving an automatic car when you've already learnt to drive manual. I see this pattern everywhere and people are definitely reluctant to give up their hard-earned v4 knowledge.

Remembering IP addresses... How quaint!

[mixmastamyk]

Sounds like me. My concern, if one just forgets everything, how does one know if their router, firewall, etc are too permissive? Security is still my responsibility.

And one still needs to pay attention for ipv4, so what is the benefit? A simultaneous half-vigilant, half-careless stance is not workable.

[aboardRat4]

What do you mean by "give your devices proper names"?

[preisschild]

probably hostnames. So you can easily connect to them via mDNS <hostname>.local

[aboardRat4]

Does Android do mDNS?

[9dev]

Just plain old hostnames really.

[aboardRat4]

Hostnames are either in a static hosts file, which you need to distribute to your machines somehow (probably using older names or raw addresses, which you do not know, because need the names in the first place), or a DNS, and for most people the DNS is under ISP's control.

Even if you have your own DNS server out there somewhere, you still need to allow a bit of DNS hijacking from your ISP in order to receive that verification SMS and enter the code into the ISP's log-in page.

DNS is a great thing, but just too much of a pain to configure.

[9dev]

Any bog-Standard home router will resolve hostnames on your LAN, and that’s everything you require in most cases. No ISP involvement at all.

[aboardRat4]

Not every bog standard home router can do ndp proxying.

[preisschild]

mDNS handles this too and is zero-configuration.

[aboardRat4]

Does your Android phone do mDNS?

[preisschild]

Yes? At least on GrapheneOS (Android 16 QPR2) it works