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by biggestlou 172 days ago
Ukraine didn’t hold an election in which the results were simply ignored by the leader in power
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Yep. They just ousted the elected president without the votes their constitution mandates.
That was 2014, there have been multiple elections since then, with multiple winners and international observers.
Yes, there were elections where at most only 18M people voted, compared to the 24M people that voted when the pro-Russian candidate won, in 2010. Because there were almost no ballot station in those regions leaning more towards Russia. Yet the government didn't think that was a problem at all; in fact, it was good for them (imagine if Trump could just make that people in some blue states couldn't vote). All this in a climate with banned parties and where all the media was controlled by the "Maidan" parties.

So it doesn't look the situation in Ukraine was very democratic either.

> "ousted"

The guy literally ran away to Russia.

I.e. the closest country with some international weight that would give him refuge.

But interesting take. So, if Zelenskyy at some point is forced to flee to Poland, is that a proof that he was a Polish puppet all along?

If he would barely speak Ukrainian, communicate mostly in Polish instead of Ukrainian, sacrifice his country’s interests in favor of Poland for 15 billion instead of following EU integration path, then yes – he was a Polish puppet all along.
Well, Zelensky actually barely speaks Ukrainian. He communicates mostly in Russian. As for his country's interests, we'd better wait to see how Ukraine is after all this finishes, and who are the biggest beneficiaries, in comparison to how it was when his term began.
Seems like a thin reason to invade a country
> a thin reason to invade a country

No invasion (yet). Just bombing.

We have at the absolute very least, invaded Venezuelan airspace.
> We have at the absolute very least, invaded Venezuelan airspace

This is not a useful delineation for what constitutes a military invasion. Invasion means landing troops and controlling territory.

Why am I seeing footage of Chinooks if it's only a bombing? Those are troop-carriers.
> Why am I seeing footage of Chinooks if it's only a bombing? Those are troop-carriers

Based on what we're being told now, this was an extraction. (Slash detention. Slash kidnapping. In any case, requiring troop transport and extraction.)

And kidnapping their president in violation of every international law. No big deal /s

Seriously, I'm patiently waiting for the day America or Russia will do the same to Netanyahu, who is an actual war criminal. Not holding my breath.

That's just one of the fake reasons Russia likes to point at, with useful idiots like yourself aiding the effort.
I don't think you fully understand their comment.