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by fraserphysics 175 days ago
I thought that macOS was proprietary, and that apple only allowed it to be run on apple hardware. Just last month, I used incus to test a software package in 6 Linux distributions. I want to also test the package in macOS. Must I get a license from apple to do that with Quickemu?
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mmastrac 175 days ago
Officially? You can't get a license.

Unofficially? https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM

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fraserphysics 173 days ago
Encouraged by the replies here, I tried to get quickemu to setup macOS on my AMD based desktop. The emulated machine crashed trying to boot macOS, and I gave up after a couple of hours.
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eek2121 175 days ago
hackintoshes have been a thing forever. Apple hopes to kill them off with the transition to arm...SPOILER: they won't.
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trollbridge 174 days ago
The problem is that macOS ARM uses extra features that don't exist on CPUs outside of Apple Silicon. So you can run virtual macOS ARM on a macOS host (such as inside UTM), but not on anything else.

There isn't currently a real ecosystem of non-Apple ARM machines anyway.

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actionfromafar 174 days ago
Servers exist. Also, maybe the missing instructions can be trapped and emulated?
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trollbridge 174 days ago
It’s possible. As far as I know nobody has done this yet (outside of Apple).
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saagarjha 174 days ago
The virtual kernels are almost stock.
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trollbridge 174 days ago
Yeah, it wouldn’t be a huge amount of work.
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Wowfunhappy 175 days ago
Uh, I think they will! A few people will just keep running older versions forever, but anyone who wants a modern Mac operating system is going to be out of luck once Intel support is dropped next year.

Intel-based Macs were fundamentally commodity hardware. You can buy AMD GPUs which are very close to what Apple shipped. Select the right components, add a few software patches, and everything just kind of works.

By contrast, you can't get an Apple Silicon GPU. And on ARM, macOS doesn't support software rendering at all. Graphics alone are going to kill any future Hackintosh prospects, because even if you can get Darwin to boot on your ARM laptop, you won't be able to display anything.

An an aside, Apple never seemed to try very hard to kill personal Hackintoshes, I really don't think they cared. Now it's going to happen incidentally.

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