[threemux]

I can't speak to any original purpose of the act, but Real IDs in practice have never guaranteed a person currently has legal status. It is not even enough on its own to demonstrate the ability to legally work (see form I-9).

If you want to quickly prove citizenship, a passport is what you need.

[toast0]

> If you want to quickly prove citizenship, a passport is what you need.

Yes, but there's no general requirement for a US citizen to have a passport, let alone carry it while in the US. Or really to carry any identification unless operating a motor vehicle on public roads, transiting an airport, or purchasing controlled substances like sudafed, etc.

The burden should be on DHS to disprove citizenship.

[convolvatron]

didn't DHS make a proclamation a few months ago stating that no form of identification is sufficient to prevent detention from an ICE agent. the information displayed using a DHS app on their phone is the only proof of citizenship

[y-c-o-m-b]

404 media covered this and the app itself turned out to be pretty janky when it came to identifying actual legal status correctly

[rsync]

"... transiting an airport ..."

You are not required to carry ID when transiting an airport for domestic flights.

It will be difficult and annoying but you can fly domestically without ID.

[AnotherGoodName]

I mean i literally was forced to get a real ID since i was in the US for more than 10 days (you can't drive on a foreign license longer than that in California and they hand out real ID licenses now).

It's no trouble to get a real ID licence as a non-US citizen. They literally have a process for this.

This article seems mind boggingly stupid. They are trying to create drama out of something that isn't there.

[toast0]

> I mean i literally was forced to get a real ID since i was in the US for more than 10 days (you can't drive on a foreign license longer than that in California and they hand out real ID licenses now).

If you intend to reside in California, you need a California license within 10 days of establishing residency (assuming you drive); but if you're just visiting for a month, I think you can use your out of state or foreign license. If you've got some authoritative reference that states a temporary visitor (less than 6-month) to California needs a CA license, I'd like to see that...

[AnotherGoodName]

Indeed a resident non-citizen who's required to get a licence in 10 days. A very common thing in the valley.

Which is why this article is going at the wrong point. Real ID is meant for citizen and non-citizen alike.

[queenkjuul]

But not for people who don't have legal permanent residence

[queenkjuul]

Sorry, citizens being detained in handcuffs for hours on suspicion of not being a citizen, simply for being Latino, despite carrying a federally-approved ID, is in fact drama.

You got your REAL ID because you were legally allowed to be here. They wouldn't have issued it otherwise. DHS approved your REAL ID so they have no reason to assume that if you a have a valid one you're not allowed to be here