[gsf_emergency_6]

(That was not to imply that I have firsthand familiarity with iceclimbing; I was just wildly extrapolating from rock climbing and friends')

The major diff is paying attention to external (nontactile) sensations perhaps?

[aebtebeten]

ice climbing is way more meditative than rock!

(because (a) crampons mean you get to study the ice and make your holds, instead of rapidly making use of what's there, and (b) the process of making them takes time... I was very pleasantly surprised; I'd expected it to be more thrilling and above all „Besonders Im Winter Arsch-Kalt“ but it was actually relatively low-adrenaline and high-activity)

[gsf_emergency_6]

Gemini: Hunter Thompson "milks the trigger", "drugs+guns"

Any high-adrenaline meditative sport (:) to recommemd (besides fencing, I found that too un-meditative but then again that could be a skill issue)

[aebtebeten]

Never tried it myself, but this Gracie interview (7:30-8:32) makes it sound as if Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (at least with enough skill) could be high-adrenaline meditative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdRIBYw6kNQ&t=450s

(also 9:00-9:15. I believe what's happening here is that Gracie calls the end result, but he has multiple paths to get there; the interviewee defends against one path, and Gracie, like water, just "flows with the go" along another path)

[gsf_emergency_6]

I thought you were gonna bring up "Poker"

[aebtebeten]

In my world, things that you can do while drinking and smoking are not sports, but past-times.

[gsf_emergency_6]

Henry VIII would like to have a chat