[AuthAuth]

If the debate is on the trade offs then his entire argument collapses when he fails to highlight a single legitimate trade off. His examples were absolutely refuted.

I dont know how so many people read that thread and agreed with the OP. When I read through his post I thought that this person cannot even accurately identify what is a wayland issue and what is an application issue. He is looking at an application called xkill and getting mad that it doesnt work outside of x. Its like me getting mad that windows disk cleaner doesnt run on linux and blaming linux for it.

[vrighter]

they are mad because wayland is designed in such a way that these tools cannot be written anymore

[AuthAuth]

Thats not true though. You can write these applications the only difference is they might need an extra permission granted from the user.