[JumpCrisscross]

> Tesla has basically solved it

Waymo has solved it. Tesla and BYD probably will solve it. And then everyone else will solve it for the same reason everyone likes having car factories: jobs and tanks.

I say this as someone who was in a Waymo and used Tesla’s latest FSD less than a month ago. One of them still fails spectacularly ungracefully. In the other I can take a nap.

[sixQuarks]

Waymo has not solved generalized autonomy. They need training wheels and HD maps for every city they expand into. You can't just put a Waymo into any city and expect it to drive autonomously.

[bdangubic]

The question I ask every person pitching FSD is whether they would let the FSD take their kid to soccer/bball… practice - still waiting for first yes answer