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by jasonlotito 167 days ago
> Is it incredibly rare?

Yes. It's incredibly rare. And suggesting otherwise is silly. Go ahead. Compare all the indie games released and see how often they succeed.

Sure, you can find successful ones, but you are ignoring those that do not succeed. There is a name for that, you know—survivorship bias.
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giancarlostoro 167 days ago
I'm not claiming it's every indie game I'm saying its not quite as rare as you suggest, I look at new releases on Steam all the time, there's less indie games than you think being released. More than there probably should be, but its not like tens of thousands a day or week or even in a month. Its about 800 a month. That's rare if anything, not "incredibly rare"
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tracker1 167 days ago
And out of the 800 new indie games a month, how many are breakout successes and sell even 10k copies? That's what is rare, not that indie games are rare, but having a success (like winning the lottery) is relatively rare.

At 10k new indie games a year, maybe a dozen gross over a million. A larger studio can't afford those kind of odds. That said, they should be able to make more games with a better focus on gameplay and a bit less on leading tech graphics.

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vunderba 167 days ago
This. And honestly, 10k sales is the bare minimum. Even if you’re a solo dev with no team and you handle everything yourself (programming, sound, music, art, marketing) to keep costs down, you’re still looking at around 6–12 months of work.

Most indie games don’t sell for more than $10 USD, but let’s be generous and say you manage to convince your audience to pay $20.

  Total: 200,000 USD
  After Steam Cut: 140,000 USD
And now you need to get lightning to strike every year to maintain your annual income so you can retire before you're Methuselah.

Could you work on the game part-time while holding down a full-time job? Sure, but you've got to have some iron stamina to want to sit in front of a computer for another 4 hours after a full day of work. Furthermore, not being able to focus on the game means dev might take significantly longer.

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tracker1 167 days ago
I was thinking 10K copies as a metric for even modest "success" for a game, but you're right about the expenses and income... That said, depending on where you live, that's a pretty good income.
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johndough 167 days ago
In 2021, only the top 8 % of games sold 10k copies or more, so if you were among them, you were quite successful.

Source: https://app.sensortower.com/vgi/insights/article/video-game-...

In addition, a large fraction of those 8 % were probably games by AAA studios, so your chances as an indie dev are even lower.

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vunderba 167 days ago
Indie games (which is just a tag you can add to your game) notwithstanding - the number of games released per month appears to be closer to double that.

https://steamdb.info/stats/releases

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