[acoustics]

ChatGPT dominates the consumer market (though Nano Banana is singlehandedly breathing some life into consumer Gemini).

A small anecdote: when ChatGPT went down a few months ago, a lot of young people (especially students) just waited for it to come back up. They didn't even think about using an alternative.

[dom96]

When ChatGPT starts injecting ads or forcing payment or doing anything else that annoys its userbase then the young people won't have a problem looking for alternatives

This "moat" that OpenAI has is really weak

[PeterHolzwarth]

They took early steps to do so (ads) just recently. User response was as you'd expect.

[jeffbee]

That's pretty nuts. With the models changing so much and so often, you have to switch it up sometimes just to see what the other company is offering.

[adastra22]

How often do you or people you know use a search engine other than google?

[jeffbee]

That is different because all of the players I mentioned have credible, near-leading products in the AI model market, whereas nobody other than Google has search results worth a damn. I wouldn't recommend anyone squander their time by checking Kagi or DDG or Bing more than once.

[adastra22]

I don't use google. Believe it or not, I get better results via Bing (usually via DDG, which is a frontend for Bing). But I asked the rhetorical question expecting the answer you gave. These people use ChatGPT only for the same reason you exclusively use Google.

[jeffbee]

Right, that's consistent with what I said if you re-read it. Search isn't changing. If you are happy with your search you would be wasting your time to shop around.

[throw-12-16]

The consumer market is a loss leader.