[viraptor]

> shove it in a special someone's basement

They didn't say what conditions it's held in. You're just adding FUD, please stop. It could be under the bed, it could be in a professional server room of the company ran by the mentioned contributor.

[lrvick]

100%. Just as an example I have several racks at home, business fiber, battery backup, and a propane generator as a last resort. Also 4th amendment protections so no one gets access without me knowing about it. I host a lot of things at home and trust it more than any DC.

[Aurornis]

> Also 4th amendment protections so no one gets access without me knowing about it.

If there's ever a need for a warrant for any of the projects, the warrant would likely involve seizure of every computer and data storage device in the home. Without a 3rd party handling billing and resource allocation they can't tell which specific device contains the relevant data, so everything goes.

So having something hosted at home comes with downsides, too. Especially if you don't control all of the data that goes into the servers on your property.

[hypeatei]

Isn't a business line quite expensive to maintain per month along with a hefty upfront cost? For a smaller team with a tight budget, just going somewhere with all of that stuff included is probably cheaper and easier like a colo DC.

> Also 4th amendment protections so no one gets access without me knowing about it

laughs in FISA

[well_ackshually]

> Also 4th amendment protections so no one gets access without me knowing about it.

Hahaha

at best you're getting a warrant. Slightly better you're getting a warrant _and_ a gag order. Then it escalates, and having your door kicked in at 6AM is about the best you can hope for.

But sure, you'll know about it. Most likely. Maybe.

Just don't keep anything important in there eh ?

(Note, this definitely applies to colocations too. It's just maybe a tiny bit harder to find which rack is yours, and companies of that size generally have lawyers to prevent that from happening. I'll take my chance with the hosting company.)

[kube-system]

Which one of those things do you think you can't get in a datacenter?

[drnick1]

That's not the point. The point is that a "home" setup can basically replicate or exceed a "professional" setup when done right.

[kube-system]

A home setup might be able to rival or beat an “edge” enterprise network closet.

It’s not going to even remotely rival a tier 3/4 data center in any way.

The physical security, infrastructure, and connectivity will never come close. E.g. nobody is doing full 2N electrical and environmental in their homelab. And they certainly aren’t building attack resistant perimeter fences and gates around their homes, unless they’re home labbing on a compound in a war torn country.

[drnick1]

> The physical security, infrastructure, and connectivity will never come close. E.g. nobody is doing full 2N electrical and environmental in their homelab. And they certainly aren’t building attack resistant perimeter fences and gates around their homes, unless they’re home labbing on a compound in a war torn country.

Why would you need all of that if what they have works? Nobody is going to raid a repo of open source software, you can just download everything for free.

[kube-system]

I'd bet F-Droid probably is colocated. Nothing in their statement precludes this.

But the assertion by commenters above that home-hosting is a viable or even a better option for a project like this is silly. Colocating a single server is cheaper than a single a Comcast Business internet connection. Air conditioners fail. Electrical failures happen. These things might not be a problem for a personal project, but they're easily and cheaply mitigable risks at commercial scale.