[banbangtuth]

Why? It is a matter of values. Fun can be a driving force just like money and stability is. It is simply a matter of your values (and your sacrifices).

Like I said, I am just a generic replaceable dime a dozen programmer dude.

[agentifysh]

you dont get paid to have fun but to produce as a laborer

a job isn't supposed to be fun its nice when it is but it shouldn't be what drives decisions

[banbangtuth]

You mean it shouldn't be the driving force of your employer to make decision. Yes I agree 10000%

I meant it can be your (not necessarily your employer) driving decision in life.

Of course, you need to suffer. That's about having tradeoffs.

[agentifysh]

almost all employers are going to expect you to use AI and produce more with it

you can definitely choose not to participate and give the opportunity someone who are happy to use AI and still have fun with it.

[banbangtuth]

Indeed, please find others to do it, not me.

[tikhonj]

most organizations have awful leadership, sure

but that doesn't mean you can't (or shouldn't) work around it

[agentifysh]

have you tried telling your boss you won't use the AI anymore while the rest of the team uses it ?

how do you imagine such conversation to play out im curious

[tikhonj]

what I've done is avoid the sort of boss who would mandate AI use

in a past job I did tell a boss that I wasn't going to be doing the whole tickets/estimates/schedule tetris thing, and that actually worked out... because the leaders I worked with understood the value of being flexible and trusting their lead engineers