[JumpCrisscross]

> they can withstand a US embargo

We were never debating if Europe could survive an American embargo.

You said “most money won't buy you much resources in a decade.” This was about America surviving a European freeze-out. The simple truth is, there are more resources in America and within its military’s undisputed reach than there are in Europe.

Your UNEP report doesn’t show why America alone couldn’t extract its way out of an embargo. (While it puts its military to use.)

[reactordev]

You must have me mistaken with someone else. I didn't say that. I said that it wouldn't matter as resource exhaustion is faster than it was previously and we will run out of resources, money or not. So if one side decides to horde or exploit the other hemisphere, it's like kids fighting over the last bit of sand in the sandbox.

[JumpCrisscross]

> it wouldn't matter as resource exhaustion is faster than it was previously and we will run out of resources, money or not

Oh. Sure. Fair. But not relevant in our lifetimes, at least not from the position of the United States. If push came to shove, we'd take those last bits of sand. That's one of the problems with might makes right: it lets those in power put off hard choices.

[reactordev]

China has more sand