[anthk]

Invade The Hague, and the next you see it's the whole US bases' set kicked out from Europe and potential Russian/Chinese missiles in Cuba pointing to Silicon Valley.

And OFC Wall Street heading down faster than in 1929. Fucking up your main client would yield a disaster so huge to the US economy than no war would save them. If any, they would be fucked, because the EU might even temporally ally with Russia. Then the shit would hit the fan in Alaska.

Your army it's the best in the world? Say hello to a coallition between Europe-China-Russia. No one would dare to throw any single atomic bomb because the outcome would be MAD for everyone.

The US would attempt then to invade Mexico/Canada. But that would yield to its own people siding up with Canada and Mexico against an obvious corrupt US war-machine-corporate state, up to the point to getting former Mexican territory back to Mexico.

Texas and California might have declared indepent countries themselves to avoid any war. The smart move, you know.

[cmxch]

> But that would yield to its own people siding up with Canada and Mexico

Which would be put down before it even could start.

[throwaway3060]

There is no circumstance under which a unified EU would temporarily ally with Russia against the US.

[throwway120385]

Maybe in the event of some kind of World War, in which there was a very clear aggressor against both the EU and Russia?

[throwaway3060]

As I said in another comment - you'd see a revolt and joining with the aggressor before one half of the EU would ever ally with Russia.

[anthk]

Under an invasion you can expect anything.

I've seen far right regimes in Europe -Spain- siding up with the Communist Cuba because of the common backgrounds over politics.

And the Cuban regime itself under Castro mourning over Franco's death. As crazy as it sounds.

Under an US-invaded European Union Spain would team up with Cuba and Venezuela the first day no matter which party would be ruling, left or even neocon-close right. The Spaniard state's survival would be the top priority. No state, no economy, no Ibex 35. And shit would hit the fan from Latin America too.

Oh, and expect hell with guerrillas spawning here and there from Latin America backed up from Europeans and maybe the Moccromafia and the former Italian Mafia themselves. Spain, France and Italy have contacts over all the Mediterranean and you knows what Mediterranean means. I wouldn't be there if I were an American trying to invade Europe... because once you kick the wasp nest of the Islamic regimes being generously supported from Mafias, you would have both the Jihad and the Narcoguerrillas at home with European army support. Try to stop that. Because something the Southern Europeans know well it's learning to have friends even in Hell "just in case". Spain has the Hispano-spehere, they know how to put a whole political spectra on its side with ease, and the French have the Francophonie. And for sure they have contacts in the Arabic world as I said.

If they don't have a badass archive of ETA contacts with Islamic camps beforehand, and they own the triumph card of Marbella too. You would be nuts trying to invade some sickos there; they know who to call in case of emergencies. The Spanish state already did that against terrorists themselves.

[throwaway3060]

You severely underestimate the level of animosity between half the EU and Russia. They would revolt if the other half tried to openly ally with Russia.

The example you gave isn't too surprising if one believes authoritarians attract authoritarians.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Under an invasion you can expect anything

You can. But if Russia is threatening American troops in Europe, irrespective of the local framing, that’s a nuclear proxy war.

[anthk]

That what happen because, ahem, rudely said, eveyone it's grabbed from the balls from everyone's else. Economically, I mean. We are tangled and dependant of each other.

The US has the most advanced software and CPU's, the EU has sofisticated and pretty complex industrial hardware not even seen in the US. China, well, it's China, the factory of the world.

[JumpCrisscross]

Sure. But if someone is fantasizing about Europe kicking American troops out with Russian help, they’re fantasizing about nuclear war on European soil. (Admittedly, a short one given Russia’s a paper tiger in conventional terms.)

[kyboren]

A deer was walking through the forest when she suddenly noticed a hungry-looking bear stalking her. Quickening her pace, she ran headlong into her old friend the wolf devouring a rabbit. "How dare you!" Ms. Deer bellowed, "That poor rabbit! I'll have you put in prison for that!" The wolf growled. She continued, "You'd better be careful, Mr. Wolf; there's a bear chasing me. If you try to bite me I'll just team up with him and then you'll be fucked!"

[kyboren]

This is cute, like a little boy charging you with a cardboard sword. Better take him seriously or you're gonna get "attacked" by his model airplane collection next!

pats head That's nice, Billy, it sure is fun to play pretend. Now you run along and play with your marbles.

[metadope]

... but Billy has lost his marbles.