[bigcat12345678]

I don't get it

Riding a wave of industry is literally the foundation of startups paradiam itself. Why it suddenly became a sin for a Chinese founded startup?

This is exactly the disgusting bias (even to the point of racism) I mostly pointed out.

It's like everyone automatically applied double standards to Chinese founded startup and not even admit that under such influence.

[oefrha]

Riding a wave is fine. Stealing someone else’s clout and falsely advertising your product is not. This applies to every other shitty AI company with little to offer on top of someone else’s foundational model, regardless of origin country. It’s just that Manus is particularly egregious in their false advertising, and their bullshit is an insult to people doing actual heavy lifting, like DeepSeek or Alibaba Qwen team.

Are they the only grifters? No, not by a long shot. Are they the only ones ridiculed? No.

[bigcat12345678]

> It’s just that Manus is particularly egregious in their false advertising, and their bullshit is an insult to people doing actual heavy lifting, like DeepSeek or Alibaba Qwen team.

I still felt this baseless.

Manus at the time is break through result. Are they egregious in advertising they being deepseek moment? I don't know think so. Is it a marketing ploy? Yes, but it's far less egregious than any normal AI startup, like cluely.

Comparing to deepseek or qwen, heavy lifting what? Manus is built on Claude at the time it's doing egregious marketing, how can it be considered heavy lifted by unrelated products. What's the point you want to make?

[oefrha]

It was never a breakthrough of any kind, especially not the "half of all office work are now obsolete" kind they tried to claim.

> Comparing to deepseek or qwen, heavy lifting what?

DeepSeek and Qwen were/are building reputation. Manus was stealing and tanking it. That's what it was.