[AnotherGoodName]

It's funny that 3 different Space Hulk games are here.

I actually thought Space Hulk (2013) was amazing but it's hard for a developer to keep up the yearly license payments on any Warhammer franchise. So it's not available for purchase anymore. It got ~75% on reviews on release but i like the board game and it was true to the board game so i personally loved it. Link on the steam store (the site should have these) https://store.steampowered.com/app/242570/Space_Hulk/

Fwiw if you have one of these games they are still in your Steam library. I still get to play the above game. I just can't easily play with others anymore nor can i suggest they purchase that game. I'm a little surprised it still runs fine given no updates but yay for backwards compatibility.

In general a theme for lists like these are licensing. If a developer has to pay a franchise licensing fee it's going to stop being worthwhile at some point. Take note if you're a developer. It's hard to get visibility without being tied to a franchise (Eg. Larian had to do it with Baldurs Gate 3) but it'll cut into profits massively. Even Larian are never doing it again.

[bee_rider]

Possibly this is a hot-take, but: Divinity Original Sin 2 was better than Baldurs Gate 3. The combat is so much better (DnD combat in a video game is always too swingy, the system relies on having a sentient DM who can make a story happen even after you critical fail). The things people like about BG3 (the story and characters) could have been done just as well Larian’s system. DnD probably hindered the actual quality of the game.

But, the DnD IP really got them a massive audience. I’m glad they got a hit, they deserve it. Looking forward to see what they do with their own system and a massive budget.

[NooneAtAll3]

I've had negative opinion on company behind Warhammer ever since Emperor TTS debacle

everything I've heard since only confirms that that universe would be better dead and never be talked about

[Sabinus]

I've been noticing a bit of 'totally not Warhammer but grimdark and space marines' settings being used more these days.

Void War game on Steam is a notable one.

[the_af]

What was the debacle?

I doubt the 40K universe will die any time soon, it has many fans and they are hardcore about it. And it's becoming more and more mainstream (relatively).

[hibikir]

The "If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device" youtube series, which was in some ways one of the best pieces of Warhammer content made in years, had to be stopped because GW gave the author a cease-and-desist.

I think that their approach to fan uses of their IP is far too tight, and that they'd actually be making more money if they had, say, just licensed it. A bit like how they actually harmed their own hobby videos quite a bit with their reactions to their on-air talent leaving to go independent. Nowadays GW is the last place you'd go for painting videos, and the popular content they still have is old, and created by those people that left. But given the way the law works, they are within their right to manage things badly.

Just this year, I hear a very large percentage of the people that were in their external creators network decided to give up the early access, because the restrictions had become way too tight, even for simple things like people painting their miniatures.

[the_af]

Ah, thanks for the info.

Yeah, GW shenanigans. Like you said, people like the universe they created, not the company and its draconian practices.

[reactordev]

Henry Cavill would have words with you. There are some extremely die-hard fans in the U.K. just like there are die hard fans of Star Wars here in the US.

[jandrese]

Lots of people love the Warhammer universe. Far fewer people love Games Workshop as a company.

[reactordev]

Just like there’s lots of people that love Star Wars and far fewer that love Disney?

[jandrese]

Or even George Lucas.