[jack_riminton]

Electrek’s ‘reporting’ has proven so one-sided that I take all their stories with a bucket of salt. Even if the truck has been a flop I doubt their whole battery program has been. Perhaps they’re rejigging suppliers and pausing whilst they get ready to ramp up cyber cab production lines

[youarentrightjr]

> get ready to ramp up cyber cab production lines

The word on the street is this is only 2 weeks out.

Right after fulfilling the roadster orders.

And right before the Dyson sphere that will power Grok AI is deployed.

[Loughla]

If we build a Dyson sphere just to power chat bots, I'm turning into an eco-terrorist.

[Dylan16807]

Is there something you'd prefer the shoddy beginnings of a Dyson sphere be doing?

I understand thinking it would be a terrible idea in many ways, but in this scenario I think the only thing an "eco-terrorist" accomplishes is getting more servers to stay on earth where they damage the ecosystem more.

[phatskat]

And really, we’ve had great advances in tech come out of eg the military - if AI chatbot power needs bring us Dyson spheres I’m fine with it

[altairprime]

How does a Dyson sphere make you feel, Dave?

[malfist]

And what evidence do you base those assumptions on? According to the journalists at electrek despite Tesla having capacity to manufacture 250k cybertrucks per year, they're only selling 20-25k per year

[SonOfKyuss]

I actually get a kick out of Eletrek’s roasting of Elon and Tesla, but if you read a few of their articles, it’s clear they don’t like him. Lots of opinions and editorializing in the articles. I have no problem with that, you just have to realize where they are coming from and base your interpretation accordingly

[rasz]

Its not that they dont like him, its more of Editor was big believer until Tesla scammed him out of half a $mil worth of fake roadsters that never materialized.

[simondotau]

If that's really the reason, that's the most idiotic reason possible. So he "earned" a couple of Roadsters by spamming his referral code, and it turns out his free cars might be a decade late, and maybe not as awesome as promised?

Booo hooooo

[malfist]

> booo hoooo

If your employer said they'd pay you half a million if you worked for them, and then you did and they didn't pay you, I doubt you'd be dismissing it so frivolously

[simondotau]

Okay but that’s not remotely analogous. Leveraging an existing monetised readership for referral credits isn’t “work”.

[NewLogic]

It's called fraud, the editor was a victim of fraud. At least he clued on late I guess..

[simondotau]

Is it fraud if he paid $0 for non-existent roadsters? Referral credits are legal fictions, much like how Tesla Roadsters are physical fictions. Trading one fiction for another isn’t fraud, it’s cosplay.

[fastball]

There was no guarantee of Roadster delivery date.

[TheAlchemist]

The reason for that is actually very funny. Electrek guy (Fred) was one of the main propagandist for Tesla's cult - he 'earned' 2 free Tesla Roadsters for his convincing enough people to buy a Tesla.

It was only once he realized that he has been duped and those will never materialize that the coverage turned negative.

[Tepix]

I think Elon going full nazi also had a major influence on the changing judgement of Tesla.

[fartfeatures]

Fred has been going at Tesla far longer than Elon has been political.

[Tepix]

It‘s been a gradual process.

Fred selling his stock also meant he was less inclined to be only pro-Tesla.

ChatGPT sums it up pretty well I think:

https://chatgpt.com/share/69552165-238c-8008-980b-4d0ff2e1b4...

[callc]

Yup. Plain and simple.

I won’t purchase or use anything Elon Musk does. Bad behavior and corroding society needs to be met with social disapproval.

[detritus]

Thanks for this - I've paid much less attention to Tesla over recent years, but my memory of Electrek was that it was a distinctly-pro Tesla outlet, but this was a few years back now.

[mxschumacher]

and SpaceX has been a major buyer of Cybertrucks

[narrator]

The haters on here are ridiculous. If everyone who ever had a product that failed in the market was called a fraud on HN then probably almost everyone would be. SpaceX failed on their first three launches. All the haters here would have voted to shut it all down. Glad Elon's able to recover from business failures without going to the HN comments section to find out what he should do next.

[_ea1k]

Yeah, I'm getting the same feeling. They've announced that semi will use 4680 and Cyber Cab as well, right? If that's the case, this would point to a specific supplier issue rather than something more general.

It isn't something that I've looked into in depth, but it feels like a lot of the discussion isn't hitting the mark here.

[epistasis]

When somebody is siding with reality, especially a media source, that's a reason to listen to them more not less.

And when it's straight up facts easily verifiable from others sources, pretending that it's not based in reality is just sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "la la la la" which is something that even very few 12 year olds do.

[DustinBrett]

The only fact was about the contract which is like a sentence of the article. Then it goes into a guessing game on what it could mean, with the most negative spin possible.

[mikeryan]

I honestly don’t follow this much but I doubt that production ramp up is the Cybercab’s long pole when they’ll need a significant number of market approvals for FSD to reach critical mass.

[postexitus]

Let's stay positive folks! /s