[ploxiln]

Theoretically ... in practice, Boeing's most rigorous days in the 80s and 90s were directed by empowered individuals in the manufacturing org, and when it went full "strict process only" in the 2000s and 2010s the quality fell.

[fc417fc802]

I don't think that's due to following the process but rather systemic cultural issues. The process doesn't exist in a vacuum. There's a good faith meta process that needs to be followed to incrementally fix issues as they arise.

Bad faith actors and cultural dysfunction can break pretty much anything no matter how well thought out it might be.

[macintux]

> Bad faith actors and cultural dysfunction can break pretty much anything no matter how well thought out it might be.

U.S. politics today in a nutshell.

[actionfromafar]

McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing in 1997. Timeline checks out.

[_DeadFred_]

It's also leaving out that system only works (worked) for building airplanes because it happens (happened) to be an industry with a hugely passionate workforce. Switch it to contracted out wage slaves and 'the system' doesn't work. Because the system never 'worked', many passionate people worked via sheer force of will/desire/care/investment into the final product. It was about the people all along.