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by perching_aix 172 days ago
Mhmm, so chilling. Cause word filters aren't as old as computing itself...
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Don’t need to ban speech when your population preemptively does it for you in fear of an unaccountable corporation blocking you.
Don't need to ban speech when people on their soapboxes keep telling me I need to be in terror.

Will somebody pleeeaaaase think of American Puritanism and Globalism?

"Unalive" has reached mainstream usage, on account of those inscrutable censors. If that is not the spitting picture of Newspeak I don't know what is.
The trend of self-censoring words like 'dead' and 'kill' appears to be relatively new, motivated by TikTok and YouTube algorithms, but spilling over into the general internet.
The sewer section of sites like the daily mail has been needlessly censoring words for well over a decade
Correlation is not causation but I challenge anyone to come up with a different cause:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=tiktok,u...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=unalive&...

I agree, although I was referring to asterisks like de*d and k*ll (or censoring with black bars, or using emojis) - euphemisms of course have always been part of language evolution.
I chose unalive because i didn't know google trends allowed searching for asterisks. Appears it does. k*ll was apparently used even before tiktok but usage increased markedly around the same time as unalive appeared. Interestingly d*ad and r*pe don't follow this pattern. I am not sure it treats asterisks correctly, nor that google trends is the right tool to research this, given people searching for the word is only a poor indicator of its usage.

Sidenote, I wish all websites supported markdown properly and not a custom weird subset they found convenient.

Word filters are only the beginning. LLMs are being phased in to flag and filter content based on more sophisticated criteria.

I read somewhere that chinese people used the ability of their language to form new meanings by concatenating multiple symbols in many different ways to get around censorship and that each time the new combination was banned, they came up with a new one. I wonder how long that'll be possible.

passwords were a foreign concept to early computing, but you presume censorship was taking place?

it took awhile of corporatization and profit-shaping before censorship on computers really took off in any meaningful way.

...but it wasn't for any reasons other than market broadening and regulation compliance.

I think you're not taking what I wrote nearly literally enough. Really, you should be showing me diagrams of the Von Neumann architecture missing a censorship module. Maybe even gasp at the omission of it in Babbage's letters.

But why stop there? Let's bring out the venerable Abacus! We could have riveting discussions about how societies even back then, thousands of years ago, designated certain language as foul, and had rules about not using profanities in various settings. Ah, if only they knew they were actually victims of Orwellian censorship, and a globalist conspiracy.

It's even possible to spell out BOOBS on an abacus.