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by soldthat 174 days ago
> Israel is attacking all of their neighbours.

That’s a bit of an exaggeration. Israel has not attacked Egypt or Jordan.

It has attacked Lebanon after the north of Israel had been evacuated for many months due to relentless rocket attacks from Lebanon.

The only preemptive attack on a neighbour was Syria, after the fall of the Assad regime.

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They’re also attacking Iran too. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdj9vj8glg2o

I don’t really care who started what. That’s just silly playground politics best left for historians who specialise in Middle Eastern foreign politics. My point is they’re at the “let’s show them our military force” phase of their foreign policies.

Iran is a thousand miles away from Israel. There are like 30 other countries within that radius.

I get that you’re trying to make a different point, but your exaggerated language presents a distorted slant, and such one-sided rhetoric, especially when repeated many times, actually contributes to the political shifts and the spirals of violence that you worry about.

I’m not going to disagree with your more general point, even though you’re missing my point, but now you’re the one being exaggerative.
I was actually trying to be precise.

The 27 UN member countries (within 1,000 miles):

Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Chad, Cyprus, Egypt, Eritrea, Georgia, Greece, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Moldova, North Macedonia, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Sudan, Syria, Turkey, Ukraine, Yemen.

Additional non-UN / partially-recognized entities also within 1,000 miles

Kosovo, Palestine, Northern Cyprus.

Although my source occasionally hallucinates, I think this is approximately accurate, especially if you consider the distance Israeli jets actually travelled.

> your exaggerated language presents a distorted slant, and such one-sided rhetoric, especially when repeated many times, actually contributes to the political shifts and the spirals of violence that you worry about.

Definitely constitutes as you being exaggerative.

You knew what I meant. This wasn’t about a fallacy of understanding, it was a technical pedantry.

Hence why I said I agree with your general point but you’re also missing my point and exaggerating things: yes you’re right that Israel and Iran are not literal neighbours but my point was meant to be the general theme of their foreign policy rather than a literal geography lesson.

This discussion is getting rather silly now though. Especially when I don’t think either one of us disagrees with the actual point the other was making.

Your comment is one data point in a deluge of similarly slanted views across all platforms that, in conjunction, have real consequences and fuel the violence.

I don’t think that’s your intention, or that your comment on its own can have a significant impact, you are just one person I can reach out to. I think you agree that it’s wrong to make a negative exaggeration against a group of people, and I was just pointing out that that what you said was an exaggeration.