[axiolite]

> As soon as enough people who are willing to pay the toll saturates capacity you end up with the same issue (“just one more lane bro”).

Increase the toll prices to reduce congestion, increase the number of buses on that route, and use some of the money for either expanding the road or building another more-or-less parallel road.

[b3ing]

Plus it increases traffic on the side roads, and they won’t build a highway to compete w the toll road. The side roads now have 3-5 lanes going one direction, a damn public highway would get people to places faster

[bob1029]

> Increase the toll prices to reduce congestion

This stretch of road is already using congestion/dynamic pricing. I've never had to go slower than 85mph the entire way.

[dangus]

Sure, the point is, what about 10-20 years from now when there are enough drivers where the cost doesn’t matter?

It’s like Disney World. They can fill the parks with people willing to pay $200 a day for tickets alone. If you can’t afford it then it doesn’t matter that other people get to get in.

Highways just don’t scale well. Two train tracks can move about the same number of people as 15 lanes of highway.

[iknowstuff]

This indeed the “just one more lane bro” solution. What you are missing is how utterly destructive to the urban fabric and disgusting freeways are. Take a stroll next to one sometime.

[potato3732842]

I live within earshot of one and there's a freight rail even closer. Sure it's loud but the way it causes "the wrong kind of people"[1] to self select to not live here is great for my stress levels.

[1]the kind who have so few problems that freeway proximity makes it high on the list of things that inform where they choose to live

[iknowstuff]

Lol spare me. Actually you’re right, let me live in a nice urbanist city and you feel free to live on a freeway median. Just far away, please.