[JoeAltmaier]

I get it. Lots of people fall for design over usefulness. Not very technical, so a mac is enough.

but lets never fool ourselves into thinking they are more useful, more efficient or flexible. That's tiresome, and it's repeated endlessly as well.

People buy all sorts of things that are not very good. Audience is an excuse; salesmanship is not about selling what the customer needs.

I'm no newb, just ranting about macs. I've been around, even before the mac existed. Written code for them, for nearly every platform around. I'm not sanctimonious; I'm educated. The Mac OS was a pile of bad code. The current Mac OS, dev tools, documentation, deployment environment is among the worst.

Not entitled; just very tired of fighting it.

[seec]

I started on Macs and I tend to agree.

They have some good things on the hardware side but you have pay a lot for it, and it's not just about the money.