[lvl155]

Apple trying to “open-source” something is pretty relevant. I don’t trust them at all. People constantly go at Microsoft but what Apple has done in the last 15 years is far worse. Their monopolies have had far worse impact than whatever Microsoft ever did with Windows and IE.

[saagarjha]

What would you suggest they have done here?

[wkat4242]

Yeah Apple was on a good track for a while with things like OpenCL. But completely reversed course :(

[robertoandred]

Well, the industry rejected OpenCL in favor of proprietary CUDA. Oh well...

[bigyabai]

The poor industry, self-selecting for high-quality SDKs that macOS won't sign. Wouldn't they be upset if Apple ends up hurting themselves?

As rare as Apple is to admit it, there is this mercurial thing called "competition" that haunts the free market. OpenCL would have had an excellent chance if Apple took it as seriously as Nvidia took CUDA. But they didn't, it was thrown over the fence and expected that everyone else would do the work. While Nvidia was shipping Linux and BSD-native CUDA drivers, Apple was just distributing loose specs and begging the OpenCL working group to stop rewarding their competitor. Not for a lack of funding or motivation, Apple lost because they were butthurt.

OpenCL was DOA the moment Apple stopped treating Nvidia as a proper threat. Everyone else in the industry supported CUDA and was fine with it.

[AnonymousPlanet]

I decidedly disagree with about everything you said regarding Microsoft. The Microsoft monopoly is the most life sucking cancer the corporate world has ever experienced. Compared to that the entire existence of Apple is merely a footnote. Don't mistake your stupid phone for the world.

[lvl155]

I sunk my twenties involving the sh*tshow that was Microsoft antitrust. No, Microsoft shipping IE by default is pretty benign compared to what Apple has been doing for far longer than whatever Microsoft ever did. In fact, one can make an argument that Windows was really an open platform for developers based on Today’s standards.

[AnonymousPlanet]

I'm not talking about laughable little stunts like IE. I'm talking about the ongoing cancer that is eating up billions from little companies all the way to big corporations. All of that is ongoing, and they squeeze their prey for everything they have. They are the most disgusting and damaging disease you can imagine.

Once you start using even a small fraction of their tech it instantly metastasises throughout the entire organisation because of lock in and "open standards" that weirdly only work with their own tech. If the MS tech creates a problem the solution is to pour more MS tech onto the festering wound.

You apparently have been so insulated from how actual companies have to deal with tech that you think your little forays using computers are what everything should be measured by. All you have is a developer and hobbyist point of view.

[swiftcoder]

> Apple trying to “open-source” something

You know Apple releases/funds a lot of open source, right?

Projects like WebKit, LLVM/clang, or CUPS (the print drivers for all of Linux)...