[lacy_tinpot]

I don't think there is anything that can be said to actually change people's minds here. Because people that are against it aren't interested in actually engaging with this new technology.

People that are interest in it and are using it on a daily basis see value in it. There are now hundreds of millions of active users that find a lot of value in using it.

The other factor here is the speed of adoption, which I think has seriously taken a lot of people by surprise. Especially those trying this wholesale boycot campaign of AI. For that reason people artificially boycotting this new technology are imo deluded.

If it were advocating for Open source models it would be far more reasonable.

[grehbies]

>People that are interest in it and are using it on a daily basis see value in it.

I'm one of them. I've got plenty of image gens to prove it (and I'd have more if OpenAI hadn't killed Dall-E labs with almost no heads-up). I'm telling you that I still think contemporary implementations of the technology are just this side of vile, and that I hope that the industry collapses soon, so that grassroots start-ups with actual moral scruples, and a desire to enable rather than control their customers, have the chance to emerge and compete. Also: for said customers, such a collapse wouldn't even be THAT different from the way in which tech companies currently snatch away tools on a whim.

[gtowey]

> Because people that are against it aren't interested in actually engaging with this new technology.

How do you know that? Are you just assuming anyone who has something negative to say just hasn't used it?

In my case it's absolutely not true. I've used it near daily for coding tasks and a handful of times for other random writing or research tasks. In a few cases I've actively encouraged a few others to try it.

From direct experience I can say it's definitely not ready for prime time. And I like the way most companies are trying to deploy it even less.

There is something there with LLMs, but the way they're being productized and commercialized does not seem healthy. I would rather see more research, slow testing and trials, and a clear understanding of the potential negatives for society before we simply dump it into the public sphere.

The only mind I see not willing to be changed is yours when you characterize any push back against AI as simply ignorant haters. You are clearly wrong about that.

[lacy_tinpot]

>There is something there with LLMs, but the way they're being productized and commercialized does not seem healthy. I would rather see more research, slow testing and trials, and a clear understanding of the potential negatives for society before we simply dump it into the public sphere.

There's something incredibly harmful about this kind of mentality.

It's a weird kind of paternalizing, diminutive, and degrading view of common people.