[iSnow]

I am not sure Jobs was always a great boss, but if that conversation is somewhat true, it would have completely worked for me:

- Big boss doesn't just yell at the product manager who then yells at the team leads who then calls "all hands" and unloads her stress on the team

- Instead big boss explains his line of thinking and adding some nape of the napkin projections why this improvement actually matters.

You might get a chuckle out of the "life saved" point, but it's easy to understand that this is meaningful productivity over a big number of users.

[taneq]

There are a lot of stories about Jobs acting in completely unhinged and highly toxic ways. I agree that the particular situation you’re describing is a good though.

[throw-12-16]

Jobs was famously an asshole and many of his former employees have spoken at length about it.

[fennecbutt]

Pretty sure Steve Jobs was known for yelling at, belittling and bullying people, throwing tantrums and making threats/ultimatums.

Dude had anger/I'm the hero issues...his biography notably leaves this stuff out and Woz' only covers a few incidents (because he still considers friend) though I'm sure there were more. Like when Woz invented universal remote and sent a prototype to Jobs and Jobs smashed it against the wall in a fit of anger.

[Esophagus4]

I will never claim Jobs was a good neighbor or a Mr. Rogers type. Or even a fun person to work for.

But I don’t look up to him for that. Same way I don’t look up to Tiger Woods for who he is as a husband, or Picasso for… well, also poor behavior with women.

I want to play for Michael Jordan to be with the best and to be challenged to be my best.

Sometimes the thing that makes people excellent in one facet of their life makes them impossible pricks in others.

Extreme excellence in one facet of life is what I admire people like that for.

[skeeter2020]

I think you're setting up a false choice, but maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree then, because I absolutely, 100% will not be nor work with assholes to accomplish something. The tech world is FULL of genuine nice people who has acomplished remarkable things, and while I do respect people like jobs for what he accomplished, I do not let them skate for the mean or hurtful things they have done.

[Esophagus4]

I certainly don’t model myself after his behavior, either - but again, I don’t admire him for that.

[apple4ever]

Same here. My management style is far from his, but my principles match his, for the reasons you mentioned.